Recorded live at AFWA’s Women Who Count Conference, Questian and Nancy are joined by employment attorney Kami Hoskins and HR leader Julie Thiel for an unflinching conversation about sexual harassment in accounting. From boundary-crossing “jokes” and unwanted physical contact to explicit quid pro quo threats, this panel breaks down how harassment actually shows up at work… and why it’s so often minimized, misread, or missed entirely in the moment. They pull back the curtain on what really happens when HR gets involved, why silence is often mistaken for professionalism, and how power dynamics shape who is believed and who is protected. This is Part Two of a two-part live recording examining how workplace culture enables harm—and what it takes to change it.ResourcesSlide Deck - https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1EVkM2HbslFIqWXhDHWxkgYpmtk_0ZG0lJ9yE-DgdNdw/Live Audience’s Mentimeter Word Cloud - https://photos.app.goo.gl/jh2d42QmRRZwKL9R7AFWA Women Who Count Conference - https://www.afwa.org/women-who-count/Kami Hoskins - https://www.linkedin.com/in/kami-hoskins-132aaa2a/ - creates and implements effective solutions for employers navigating complex labor and employment law issues, providing meticulous defense in state and federal courts as well as before the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission, National Labor Relations Board, and the Arizona Attorney General’s Office.She advises employers on employment policies and handbooks, performance management, accommodations, reductions in force, and workplace investigations. She negotiates and drafts employment-related agreements, including non-competition, non-solicitation, and confidentiality agreements. She also has extensive experience leading employment practices trainings for attorneys, HR professionals, and managers.In addition to her labor and employment practice, Kami advises businesses on sustainability and ESG strategies, including sustainability disclosures under relevant regulatory frameworks, greenhouse gas goal setting, DEI programs, and social impact programs. With a strong capacity for high-stakes, people-centered work and a decisive, detail-oriented approach to problem-solving, Kami’s dynamic practice also includes commercial litigation and business reorganization matters.Kami has been a volunteer with the Boys & Girls Clubs of the Valley since 2012 and a member of the Executive Committee since 2019. On Saturday mornings, you can find Kami volunteering with the Arizona Humane Society.Julie Thiel - https://www.linkedin.com/in/juliemthiel/ - helps professional services firms transform high-turnover environments into talent magnets. With 30+ years in HR leadership, Julie implements her proven, practical retention framework to reduce costly turnover in accounting, engineering, and IT organizations. She combines expertise in emotional intelligence and retention strategy to deliver practical solutions that leaders can implement immediately. Julie has presented at APWA Minnesota, Dakota County Chamber of Commerce, School Nutrition Association, and the University of Minnesota Carlson School of Business. Her audiences praise her relatable style and actionable insights that transform retention challenges into strategic advantages.Equal Employment Opportunity Commission -  https://www.eeoc.gov/data/sexual-harassment-our-nations-workplacesWomen in the Workplace 2024 - https://leanin.org/women-in-the-workplaceSPONSORS: [Forwardly, Relay, Client Hub] Join Our LinkedIn Page!https://www.linkedin.com/company/she-counts-podcastSubscribe on YouTubehttps://www.youtube.com/@SheCountsPodcastFollow She Counts on IGhttps://www.instagram.com/shecounts.show/Connect with Nancyhttps://www.thedancingaccountant.com/https://www.linkedin.com/in/nancy-mcclelland-cpaConnect with Questianhttps://www.reqoncilefinancials.com/https://www.linkedin.com/in/questian-telka-ea-78383666Earn CPE for Listening to This Podcasthttps://www.earmark.app/This podcast is a production of Earmark Media

Recorded live at AFWA’s Women Who Count Conference, Questian and Nancy are joined by employment attorney Kami Hoskins and HR leader Julie Thiel for an unflinching conversation about sexual harassment in accounting. From boundary-crossing “jokes” and unwanted physical contact to explicit quid pro quo threats, this panel breaks down how harassment actually shows up at work… and why it’s so often minimized, misread, or missed entirely in the moment. They pull back the curtain on what really happens when HR gets involved, why silence is often mistaken for professionalism, and how power dynamics shape who is believed and who is protected. This is Part One of a two-part live recording examining how workplace culture enables harm—and what it takes to change it.ResourcesSlide Deck - https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1EVkM2HbslFIqWXhDHWxkgYpmtk_0ZG0lJ9yE-DgdNdw/Live Audience’s Mentimeter Word Cloud - https://photos.app.goo.gl/jh2d42QmRRZwKL9R7AFWA Women Who Count Conference - https://www.afwa.org/women-who-count/Kami Hoskins - https://www.linkedin.com/in/kami-hoskins-132aaa2a/ - creates and implements effective solutions for employers navigating complex labor and employment law issues, providing meticulous defense in state and federal courts as well as before the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission, National Labor Relations Board, and the Arizona Attorney General’s Office.She advises employers on employment policies and handbooks, performance management, accommodations, reductions in force, and workplace investigations. She negotiates and drafts employment-related agreements, including non-competition, non-solicitation, and confidentiality agreements. She also has extensive experience leading employment practices trainings for attorneys, HR professionals, and managers.In addition to her labor and employment practice, Kami advises businesses on sustainability and ESG strategies, including sustainability disclosures under relevant regulatory frameworks, greenhouse gas goal setting, DEI programs, and social impact programs. With a strong capacity for high-stakes, people-centered work and a decisive, detail-oriented approach to problem-solving, Kami’s dynamic practice also includes commercial litigation and business reorganization matters.Kami has been a volunteer with the Boys & Girls Clubs of the Valley since 2012 and a member of the Executive Committee since 2019. On Saturday mornings, you can find Kami volunteering with the Arizona Humane Society.Julie Thiel - https://www.linkedin.com/in/juliemthiel/ - helps professional services firms transform high-turnover environments into talent magnets. With 30+ years in HR leadership, Julie implements her proven, practical retention framework to reduce costly turnover in accounting, engineering, and IT organizations. She combines expertise in emotional intelligence and retention strategy to deliver practical solutions that leaders can implement immediately. Julie has presented at APWA Minnesota, Dakota County Chamber of Commerce, School Nutrition Association, and the University of Minnesota Carlson School of Business. Her audiences praise her relatable style and actionable insights that transform retention challenges into strategic advantages.Equal Employment Opportunity Commission -  https://www.eeoc.gov/data/sexual-harassment-our-nations-workplacesWomen in the Workplace 2024 - https://leanin.org/women-in-the-workplaceSPONSORS: [Forwardly, Relay, Client Hub] Join Our LinkedIn Page!https://www.linkedin.com/company/she-counts-podcastSubscribe on YouTubehttps://www.youtube.com/@SheCountsPodcastFollow She Counts on IGhttps://www.instagram.com/shecounts.show/Connect with Nancyhttps://www.thedancingaccountant.com/https://www.linkedin.com/in/nancy-mcclelland-cpaConnect with Questianhttps://www.reqoncilefinancials.com/https://www.linkedin.com/in/questian-telka-ea-78383666Earn CPE for Listening to This Podcasthttps://www.earmark.app/This podcast is a production of Earmark Media

Two accountants with ADHD (and one who’s got lots of questions) get real about what it's like when your brain won't filter information, when 30 minutes turns into either 3 hours or 3 minutes, and when opening your email derails your entire day. Jina Etienne joins Questian and Nancy to discuss early- vs later-in-life diagnosis; the exhaustion of masking symptoms for decades; the superpowers inherent in ADHD; and why women in accounting are finally putting words to experiences they've had their whole lives. If you’ve wondered about ADHD in accounting… yet all your resources are male, this is the episode for you.ResourcesJina Etienne on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/etiennejina/“Speaking the Unspoken” by Jina Etienne - https://www.etienneconsulting.com/post/speaking-the-unspokenThe Distracted Elephant podcast by Jina Etienne & Ipalla Cooke - https://www.distractedelephant.com Jina’s YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@etienneconsulting Jina’s personal blog: Fearlessly Me - https://www.fearlessly-me.com “ADHD: Beyond the Stereotypes in the Workplace” by Jina Etienne -  https://report.woodard.com/articles/adhd-beyond-the-stereotypes-in-the-workplace-ophrwr “Understanding ADHD: Looking Past Stereotypes” by Jina Etienne  - https://report.woodard.com/articles/understanding-adhd-looking-past-stereotypes-ophrwrHelpful links:CDC - How is ADHD Diagnosed (https://www.cdc.gov/ncbddd/adhd/diagnosis.html)Adult ADHD Assessment and Diagnosis (https://www.aafp.org/family-physician/patient-care/prevention-wellness/emotional-wellbeing/adhd-toolkit/assessment-and-diagnosis.htmlTesting for ADHD: How ADHD Is Diagnosed (https://www.verywellmind.com/diagnosis-of-adhd-20584)Symptoms of Adult ADHD https://www.healthline.com/health/adhd/adult-adhdMore and more women being diagnosed with ADHD, study findshttps://www.cbsnews.com/newyork/news/more-and-more-women-being-diagnosed-with-adhd-new-study-finds/Time Blindness in ADHD https://www.verywellmind.com/causes-and-symptoms-of-time-blindness-in-adhd-5216523 The Creativity of ADHD https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-creativity-of-adhd/“ADHD Impairment Peaks in Menopause, According to ADDitude Reader Survey”  https://www.additudemag.com/menopause-symptoms-adhd-survey/ “This Is How Your ADHD Can Affect You During Menopause” https://drbrighten.com/adhd-and-menopause Links from studies and articles cited in the episode:Adult ADHD and comorbid anxiety and depressive disorders: a review of etiology and treatment - https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC12179154/The female side of pharmacotherapy for ADHD: A systematic literature review - https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0239257PubMed, Prevalence of Undiagnosed ADHD in Adults - https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/39830803/“Focus & Flow: The ADHD Accountant’s Survival Guide” (CPA Practice Advisor, 2024) - https://www.cpapracticeadvisor.com/2024/09/09/working-with-adhd-a-toolkit-for-accountants/110133/“Resources and Strategies Are Available to Accountants with ADHD” (NYSSCPA / Accounting Today) - https://nysscpa.org/article-content/resources-and-strategies-are-available-to-accountants-with-adhd-091224SPONSORS: [Forwardly, Relay, Client Hub] Join Our LinkedIn Page!https://www.linkedin.com/company/she-counts-podcastSubscribe on YouTubehttps://www.youtube.com/@SheCountsPodcastFollow She Counts on IGhttps://www.instagram.com/shecounts.show/Connect with Nancyhttps://www.thedancingaccountant.com/https://www.linkedin.com/in/nancy-mcclelland-cpaConnect with Questianhttps://www.reqoncilefinancials.com/https://www.linkedin.com/in/questian-telka-ea-78383666Earn CPE for Listening to This Podcasthttps://www.earmark.app/This podcast is a production of Earmark Media

When nearly everyone in the room raises their hand to admit they experience imposter syndrome… it's time to stop calling it a “syndrome”. Questian and Nancy explore why this near-universal feeling shows up differently for high-achieving women in accounting—who, for various reasons, often push through it more slowly than men—examining the systemic and social roots that reinforce it. They share personal stories of feeling unqualified despite clear evidence to the contrary, and offer practical frameworks for recognizing, reframing, and finding relief from these persistent self-limiting beliefs.ResourcesPsychology Today - https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/basics/imposter-syndromeDr. Valerie Young - https://impostorsyndrome.com/impostor-story/Tara Mohr “Playing Big” - https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/25310678-playing-bigJennifer Dymond - https://www.linkedin.com/in/jenndymond/Theatre of Public Speaking - https://publicspeaking.mistymegia.com/?ref=857055Scaling New Heights - https://www.woodard.com/scaling-new-heights-2026Bridging the Gap - https://www.btgconference.com/Sheryl Sandberg - “... many people, but especially women, feel fraudulent when they are praised for their accomplishments. Instead of feeling worthy of recognition, they feel undeserving and guilty, as if a mistake has been made. Despite being high achievers, even experts in their fields, women can't seem to shake the sense that it is only a matter of time until they are found out for who they really are- impostors with limited skills or abilities.” - https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/16071764-lean-inSPONSORS: Forwardly, Relay, Client HubJoin Our LinkedIn Page!https://www.linkedin.com/company/she-counts-podcastSubscribe on YouTubehttps://www.youtube.com/@SheCountsPodcastFollow She Counts on IGhttps://www.instagram.com/shecounts.show/Connect with Nancyhttps://www.thedancingaccountant.com/https://www.linkedin.com/in/nancy-mcclelland-cpaConnect with Questianhttps://www.reqoncilefinancials.com/https://www.linkedin.com/in/questian-telka-ea-78383666Earn CPE for Listening to This Podcasthttps://www.earmark.app/This podcast is a production of Earmark Media

Candy Bellau joins Nancy and Questian to discuss a problem that costs women accountants thousands of dollars every year: underpricing. The conversation covers why women tend to charge 25-50% less than men for the same work, how compassionate pricing and relationship loyalty keep us trapped in unsustainable business models, and what changed when Candy discovered male colleagues were quoting double her rates despite having less expertise. The three dive into practical solutions, including reframing value-based pricing, building community support around fee conversations, and remembering that sustainable pricing is not only about personal profit, but also about taking care of your team.ResourcesCandy Bellau on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/candicejohnsonkramerica/Unbalanced Podcast - https://open.spotify.com/show/4cikK2dd9JVvSmeyax58fQSam Hallburn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/pbsaccounting/Kramerica Business Solutions, Candy’s controllership company - https://kramericasolutions.com/Vandelay Forensic Group LLC, Candy’s CFE/Private Investigator Agency - www.vandelayforensics.comTheatre of Public Speaking - https://publicspeaking.mistymegia.com/?ref=857055Candy & Heather Satterley on the Woodard Report podcast - https://report.woodard.com/articles/twr-podcast-episode-99-candy-bellau-rwwr-twrpodCandy’s Woodard Report articles - https://report.woodard.com/articles/author/candy-bellauAndrea MacDonald on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrea-macdonald-cpa-4704042b/Carlos Garcia & Vanessa Vasquez - What Exactly to Say (for Accountants) at Intuit Connect - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2yJoFL1rERELinks to articles and studies on gender pricing disparities:https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0749597808001234https://dl.acm.org/doi/fullHtml/10.1145/3411764.3445636https://www.kauffman.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/gender_compilation_83016.pdfhttps://www.usatoday.com/story/money/usaandmain/2018/08/29/gender-wage-gap-women-entrepreneurs-time-give-yourself-raise/1123545002/https://www.inc.com/kimberly-weisul/why-women-business-owners-need-to-raise-prices.htmlhttps://www.bcg.com/publications/2018/why-women-owned-startups-are-better-bethttps://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0749597808001234https://www.jec.senate.gov/public/_cache/files/8a42df04-8b6d-4949-b20b-6f40a326db9e/the-pink-tax---how-gender-based-pricing-hurts-women-s-buying-power.pdfhttps://thegalproject.com/2025/05/21/pricing-with-confidence/SPONSORS: Forwardly, Relay, Client HubJoin Our LinkedIn Page!https://www.linkedin.com/company/she-counts-podcastSubscribe on YouTubehttps://www.youtube.com/@SheCountsPodcastFollow She Counts on IGhttps://www.instagram.com/shecounts.show/Connect with Nancyhttps://www.thedancingaccountant.com/https://www.linkedin.com/in/nancy-mcclelland-cpaConnect with Questianhttps://www.reqoncilefinancials.com/https://www.linkedin.com/in/questian-telka-ea-78383666Earn CPE for Listening to This Podcasthttps://www.earmark.app/This podcast is a production of Earmark Media