Most professionals treat "yes" as their default setting, then spend their lives playing catch-up. Brandy Jordan joins us to help reframe "no" as a necessary operating system for strategic decision-making rather than a personal failure. The discussion covers the planning fallacy, why self-abandonment is unsustainable leadership, and how starting with no actually leads to better, more intentional “yes” decisions.ResourcesBrandy Jordan on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/brandysart/“The Power of Saying No to Boost Productivity and Set Boundaries” by Brandy Jordan - https://report.woodard.com/articles/the-power-of-saying-no-to-boost-productivity-and-set-boundaries-opdwr-wmwrBrandy’s Woodard Report articles - https://report.woodard.com/articles/author/brandy-jordanDaniel Kahneman & Amos Tversky, “Thinking, Fast & Slow” - https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/11468377-thinking-fast-and-slowSPONSORS: Forwardly, Relay, Client HubJoin Our LinkedIn Page!https://www.linkedin.com/company/she-counts-podcastSubscribe on YouTubehttps://www.youtube.com/@SheCountsPodcastFollow She Counts on IGhttps://www.instagram.com/shecounts.show/Connect with Nancyhttps://www.thedancingaccountant.com/https://www.linkedin.com/in/nancy-mcclelland-cpaConnect with Questianhttps://www.reqoncilefinancials.com/https://www.linkedin.com/in/questian-telka-ea-78383666Earn CPE for Listening to This Podcasthttps://www.earmark.app/This podcast is a production of Earmark Media

Nancy and Questian record live from the Bridging the Gap conference, with audience Q&A moderated by Erin Pohan. They share raw, unfiltered answers about jealousy between friends, the shame of being called "too much," body image struggles across the spectrum, and why imposter syndrome might not be a syndrome at all. From tears to belly laughs, this celebration of Season Two proves that putting yourself out there publicly is messy, terrifying, and absolutely worth it.ResourcesErin Pohan on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/erinpohan/Randy Crabtree on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/randy-crabtree-cpa-1945a67/Bridging the Gap conference - https://www.btgconference.com/Randy Crabtree’s Unique CPA podcast - https://tri-merit.com/podcast/presenting-the-she-counts-podcast/Tri-Merit - https://tri-merit.com/WAVE - https://cec4-erin.systeme.io/0cc9baddREFRAME - https://youtu.be/iohnagPbp2k?si=Cf-YYajVbEWMbYJiScaling New Heights - https://www.woodard.com/scaling-new-heights-2026Intuit Connect - https://www.intuit.com/intuitconnect/AICPA Engage - https://www.aicpa-cimaengage.com/Theatre of Public Speaking - https://publicspeaking.mistymegia.com/bundles/tops-spring26?ref=857055Women Who Count - https://www.afwa.org/women-who-count/Burnout Bestie on Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/burnoutbestie/Lynnette Oss Connell on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/lynnette-oss-connell-cpa/Tori Staub McKee on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/tori-staub-mckee-b1872427/Nicole Davis on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/nicoledaviscpa/Blake Oliver on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/blaketoliver/Brittany Brown on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/brittany-brown-b8324812/Dan Luthi on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/dan-luthi/Aileen Gilpin on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/aileengilpin/Roman Villard on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/rdvcpa/Nick Boscia on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/nickboscia/Misty Schachtell Megia on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/misty-schachtell-3a634a2/Ask a CPA - https://www.thedancingaccountant.com/bookkeepers-guide-to-annual-reviews/Bookkeeping Buds - https://www.bookkeepingbuds.com/Upkeeping LLC - https://www.upkeeping.co/ReQoncile Financials - https://www.reqoncilefinancials.com/The Dancing Accountant - https://www.thedancingaccountant.com/Nancy’s MSN column - https://www.msn.com/en-us/channel/source/The%20Dancing%20Accountant/sr-cid-2d00560200a115d5Accounting Cornerstone Foundation - https://accountingcornerstone.org/SPONSORS: Forwardly, Client Hub and KeeperJoin Our LinkedIn Page!https://www.linkedin.com/company/she-counts-podcastSubscribe on YouTubehttps://www.youtube.com/@SheCountsPodcastFollow She Counts on IGhttps://www.instagram.com/shecounts.show/Connect with Nancyhttps://www.thedancingaccountant.com/https://www.linkedin.com/in/nancy-mcclelland-cpaConnect with Questianhttps://www.reqoncilefinancials.com/https://www.linkedin.com/in/questian-telka-ea-78383666Earn CPE for Listening to This Podcasthttps://www.earmark.app/This podcast is a production of Earmark Media

Twyla Verhelst joins Nancy and Questian to explore why women accountants are slower to adopt AI and why that matters more than you might think. From biological risk aversion to the "cheating" stigma, Twyla unpacks the unique barriers women face with technology while revealing how every prompt we enter (or don't enter) is actively training these tools. If we don't take our seats at the AI table now, we're allowing these transformative technologies to be designed without our input, our communication style, and our needs in mind.ResourcesTwyla Verhelst on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/twylav/TB Academy (Twyla & Byron’s AI classes) - https://learn.tbacademy.ai/coursesKarbon - https://karbonhq.com/mid-sized-firms/Erin Pohan on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/erinpohan/WAVE - https://cec4-erin.systeme.io/0cc9baddBookkeeping Buds - https://www.bookkeepingbuds.com/Theresa Sutter on Bookkeepers on Fire - Bookkeeper On Fire | Theresa Sutter - YouTubeAshley Francis on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashley-francis-seattle/Jennifer Dymond - https://www.linkedin.com/in/jenndymond/Scaling New Heights - https://www.woodard.com/scaling-new-heights-2026Mary Delaney, Karbon CEO - https://www.linkedin.com/in/marywdelaney/Chad Davis - https://www.linkedin.com/in/chaddavis1/Jason Staats - https://www.linkedin.com/in/jstaats/Tam Nguyen - TechwithTam.comMike McDerment, Freshbooks Founder on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/mike-mcderment-68895a1/Cheryl Sandberg - https://www.linkedin.com/in/sheryl-sandberg-5126652/Join Our LinkedIn Page!https://www.linkedin.com/company/she-counts-podcastSubscribe on YouTubehttps://www.youtube.com/@SheCountsPodcastFollow She Counts on IGhttps://www.instagram.com/shecounts.show/Connect with Nancyhttps://www.thedancingaccountant.com/https://www.linkedin.com/in/nancy-mcclelland-cpaConnect with Questianhttps://www.reqoncilefinancials.com/https://www.linkedin.com/in/questian-telka-ea-78383666Thank you to our sponsors!https://www.forwardly.com/shecountshttps://womeninaccounting.ignitionapp.com/https://keeper.app/shecounts/Earn CPE for Listening to This Podcasthttps://www.earmark.app/This podcast is a production of Earmark Media

Nancy and Questian sit down with three powerhouse conference organizers who are reshaping the accounting event landscape: Sharrin Fuller (AFWA Women Who Count), Erin Pohan (WAVE Conference), and Madeline Reeves (Advisory Amplified tour). These women discuss pricing psychology shaped by wage gaps, navigating traditional gender roles as primary breadwinners, and why smaller, women-led conferences create space for vulnerability and real connection that larger industry events often miss. The conversation explores everything from the loneliness of firm ownership to getting a seat at the table without being labeled "emotional," and highlights three of the most important educational opportunities of the year.ResourcesMadeline Reeves on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/madelinefearless/Sharrin Fuller on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/sharrinfuller/Erin Pohan on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/erinpohan/Advisory Amplified - https://www.advisoryamplified.com/Women Who Count - https://www.afwa.org/women-who-count/WAVE - https://cec4-erin.systeme.io/0cc9baddTwyla Verhelst on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/twylav/Twyla & Byron’s AI class - https://learn.tbacademy.ai/coursesCindy Schroeder on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/brightbooks/Bookkeeping Buds - https://www.bookkeepingbuds.com/Carla Caldwell on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/carlacaldwell/Mariette Martinez on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/mariettemartinez/Bridging the Gap Conference - https://www.btgconference.com/Join Our LinkedIn Page!https://www.linkedin.com/company/she-counts-podcastSubscribe on YouTubehttps://www.youtube.com/@SheCountsPodcastFollow She Counts on IGhttps://www.instagram.com/shecounts.show/Connect with Nancyhttps://www.thedancingaccountant.com/https://www.linkedin.com/in/nancy-mcclelland-cpaConnect with Questianhttps://www.reqoncilefinancials.com/https://www.linkedin.com/in/questian-telka-ea-78383666Thank you to our sponsors!https://www.forwardly.com/shecountshttps://womeninaccounting.ignitionapp.com/https://keeper.app/shecounts/Earn CPE for Listening to This Podcasthttps://www.earmark.app/This podcast is a production of Earmark Media

Justine Lackey thought she wanted to build a million-dollar bookkeeping firm – until she recognized the roadmap to get there was literally causing her physical pain. She realized that chasing revenue without building systems creates a "runaway bus" business, and rebuilt her company to harness sustainable growth and serve clients better. She shares the difference between vertical growth (more clients, more money) and lateral growth (better processes, stronger foundation) and reveals the mindset shift that helped her see her firm as a sellable asset… and why she now teaches other women to define success on their own terms.Resources:Justine Lackey on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/justinelackey/The Modern Firm Challenge with Justine LackeyRedesign How You Work, Think, and Earn With This 5-Day, High-Touch Guided Experience September 15th - September 20th, 1-2pm ET on Zoom  Register here - justinelackey.com/registerDay One The 5-Star Client Experience - Systemize the 4 steps to pristine, polished bookkeeping no matter what your client’s business is, or what their books look like Day Two Client Onboarding Secrets - My secrets for getting every client started on the right foot so they pay, stay, and do things YOUR way Day Three The Month-End Close Workflow - Learn to nail your month-end deadlines so you can stress less, and earn more. Day Four Pricing Confidence – Discover how to raise your rates without fear, attract clients who respect your value, and talk about pricing with ease. Day Five  YOUR Business Breakthrough LIVE – Bring your top business challenge for rapid-fire 1:1 coaching. PLUS, discover my Two-Minute Tool to crush overwhelm and create a clear, step-by-step action plan—no matter what you’re facing.‘Ask a CPA’ free “Bookkeeper’s Guide to Annual Reviews” - https://www.thedancingaccountant.com/bookkeepers-guide-to-annual-reviews/Melissa Miller-Furgeson: “Defining & Attracting YOUR Ideal Client” - https://youtu.be/3TQl5jpGYjk?si=4c9pf3YOQCPjUGnz&t=989“Built to Sell: Creating a Business That Can Thrive Without You” by John Warrillow - https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/10075698-built-to-sellJoin Our LinkedIn Page!https://www.linkedin.com/company/she-counts-podcastSubscribe on YouTubehttps://www.youtube.com/@SheCountsPodcastFollow She Counts on IGhttps://www.instagram.com/shecounts.show/Connect with Nancyhttps://www.thedancingaccountant.com/https://www.linkedin.com/in/nancy-mcclelland-cpaConnect with Questianhttps://www.reqoncilefinancials.com/https://www.linkedin.com/in/questian-telka-ea-78383666Thank you to our sponsors!https://www.forwardly.com/shecountshttps://keeper.app/shecounts/Earn CPE for Listening to This Podcasthttps://www.earmark.app/This podcast is a production of Earmark Media