We all have moments that ask more of us than we think we're capable of giving: the difficult client conversation, the boundary that needs to be set, the meeting where it's time to speak up. It happened to Cassie Divine, too. In two decades leading at Intuit, she discovered that authority isn't something you earn once you feel ready. It's something you access when the moment demands it. Most career advice tells women to become more confident, more assertive, or more strategic. But what if you don't need to become someone new at all? Cassie joins Nancy and Questian to explore the idea of an alter ego—not as a fake persona, but as a way to access the version of yourself that's already proven she can do hard things. From the sixth-grade story that gave birth to "Trashy Cassie" to the executive conversations that later demanded her, they unpack why authority is a behavior, not a personality, and how to stop waiting until you feel ready.
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Bill - http://bill.com/shecounts
Relay - https://relayfi.com/shecounts
Karbon - https://karbonhq.com/
- (00:00) - Welcome and Sponsors
- (01:16) - Meet Cassie Divine
- (02:30) - Origin of Trashy Cassie
- (06:38) - Executive Double Standard
- (09:26) - Alter Ego as Access
- (16:52) - Permission and Intentionality
- (20:45) - Catalog Your Strengths
- (24:14) - Celebrate Wins Rituals
- (28:04) - Behavior Over Feelings
- (29:57) - Act As If Confidence
- (31:37) - Permission To Be Bold
- (34:52) - Yoga Pants Shortcut
- (36:20) - Focus On The Why
- (40:36) - Evidence You Can Do Hard
- (43:19) - Gratitude Interrupts Panic
- (46:05) - Situational Armor Guardrails
- (47:50) - Talk Less Say More
- (53:16) - Career Hack Origin Story
- (57:23) - Final Takeaways And Wrap
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SPONSORS: [Bill, Relay, Karbon]
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